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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  Nice work, darkspilver!

  Hi ho Spilver!
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  You can carry a pistol, but you must not own any ammunition.
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  "They told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong..."

  REALLY?

  Then how do they explain these articles, published in "AWAKE!" magazine?

  "The deputy chief of the Children's Bureau of the United States Department of Health, Education and Welfare expressed the concern that many persons are feeling about parental cruelty. This public official stated: "While child abuse is no new problem to the Children's Bureau, our deep concern today is motivated by its apparent increase and by its particularly violent nature." -- "PARENTS CAN BE CRUEL" AWAKE!, page 13, April 8, 1963

  "Corruption Widespread

  The Church of England is not the only religion beset with these moral problems. On August 5, 1960, in Edinburg, Texas, a young Roman Catholic priest was charged with attempted rape of a 20-year old college girl as she knelt to pray in the Sacred Heart Church. On December 3, 1960, the Des Moines Register reported that Roman Catholic priest Lawrence Dudink, 47, pleaded guilty in court to a charge of abducting a 17-yearold girl from St. Mary's Hospital in Superior, Wisconsin. The police found the priest and the girl in a two-room motel cabin in Phoenix, Arizona. -- "Is Religion Dying?, "AWAKE!, page 8, March 22, 1962
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  I won't be here for awhile

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not too sure how long it will be, but i think that i will not be in a position to look at this site.. i met some cool friends on here.

  i enjoyed having the speedy access to the private correspondence before the elders.

  thanks atlantis, and all those that have had a share in this.

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  Nathan Natas

  Truly I tell you today this site will not be in Paradise.
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  Why A Divine Being is Possible

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

  and we always here of how it had a beginning.

  but really what could have begun it?

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  At last! A thoughtful and well thought out thread about the marvel's of creation!

  I here such article's are becoming increasingly rare on this sight, so imagine my releaf to sea this!

  Forces such as dust and gases are NOT the Engine's of Creation, as all of God's lovers no.

  How long will it take until we admit that talking horses and yes, even talking unicorns is possible!

  Ignore the worldly wisdom of "educated" men and folloe the glossolalia of the fools for God. You will prophet in the end.

  [/sarcasm: OFF]
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  Incredible cover of book published in 1932

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.

  what is incredible is the book cover.

  the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.

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  Landy said, "What an excellent resource."

  Wow, yes, it certainly looks like it may be... I need to explore this a bit.
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  Incredible cover of book published in 1932

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.

  what is incredible is the book cover.

  the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.

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  Nathan Natas

  Here it is, in English:

  http://ia601406.us.archive.org/23/items/WatchtowerLibrary/booklets/1932_cod_E.pdf
  
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  Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

  by Nevuela in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

  as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

  she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

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  Nathan Natas

  Heaven asked, "Remember Harold Camping?"

  Yes I do, but I prefer Camper von Beethoven

  Click to play "Take the Skinheads Bowling."
  
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  Signs That Armageddon is "Any Day Now"

  by Nevuela in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.

  as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).

  she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.

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  Nathan Natas

  I really do appreciate reminders like this!

  They never fail to elicit a smile, sometimes a chuckle or a smirk.

  Thank you, Watchtower assholes! You smug, self-righteous idiots!
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  Some Booklets I Request

  by mildren53 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following booklets do also have my interest:.

  1942 jehovah's witnesses - who are they - what is their work?

  (32 pages).

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